Lesson of live:
Never be angry with the group that really likes you and made you, for what you are today!
Just a reminder: The Ones that Make You, Can also Brake You!
Friday, 2 August 2013
Lesson of live:
Never be angry with the group that really likes you and made you, for what you are today!
Just a reminder: The Ones that Make You, Can also Brake You!
Someone else wrote:
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jeffz on Jul 2, 2013:
http://winsupersite.com/windows/microsoft-kills-technet-subscriptions
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Like you I recently renewed and the announcement this week was a big disappointment. I've been a TechNet subscriber for years - remember when they used to ship boxes of CDs ?
TechNet was always a great way for the individual IT Pro to keep current on MS technologies, build labs, etc.
Sure cloud based or time-slotted "trials" will fill some of the void - but when I compare to the various Linux flavors and Apache Projects I run - all of which were free - I was already willing to pay MS to that ability to download and install their products...
But without an inexpensive longer term model - my work in the space will end with 8.1/2012 R2.
I guess this is the new world of the device and services company...
Sad...
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And I do agree...
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jeffz on Jul 2, 2013:
http://winsupersite.com/windows/microsoft-kills-technet-subscriptions
_____________________________________________________________
Like you I recently renewed and the announcement this week was a big disappointment. I've been a TechNet subscriber for years - remember when they used to ship boxes of CDs ?
TechNet was always a great way for the individual IT Pro to keep current on MS technologies, build labs, etc.
Sure cloud based or time-slotted "trials" will fill some of the void - but when I compare to the various Linux flavors and Apache Projects I run - all of which were free - I was already willing to pay MS to that ability to download and install their products...
But without an inexpensive longer term model - my work in the space will end with 8.1/2012 R2.
I guess this is the new world of the device and services company...
Sad...
_____________________________________________________________
And I do agree...
Here are some others URL's concerning TechNet Retirement:
Like to read?
Here is what others Blogged as well:
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http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/17dce8ef-a813-4abd-943b-481640e1973c/microsoft-reconsider-technet-retirement
http://www.trainsignal.com/blog/save-technet
http://www.trainsignal.com/blog/technet-subscriptions-ending
http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-kill-technet-subscriptions-next-year
http://techreport.com/news/25032/technet-down-microsoft-shuttering-subscriptions-program
http://venturebeat.com/2013/07/01/microsoft-technet-shut-down/
http://www.neowin.net/news/petition-wants-microsoft-to-continue-technet
http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/TechEdNA/Any-chance-of-a-complimentary-TechNet-subscription-like-last-year
http://www.toadworld.com/platforms/sql-server/b/weblog/archive/2013/07/09/farewell-to-technet-again.aspx
http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Retires+TechNet+Paid+Subscriptions+for+IT+Deployers/article31875.htm
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/34863-Microsoft-TechNet-MSDN-keys-will-expire-at-end-of-subscription-period
http://www.zdnet.com/to-fight-piracy-microsoft-tightens-msdn-and-technet-terms-again-7000000131/
http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise-fanboys-push-back-on-technet-subscription-shutdown-7000018319/
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=2255209
http://ebraiter.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/microsoft-to-begin-to-kill-off-technet-plus-subscriptions-in-august/
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/microsoft_to_end_technet_next_month.html
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/354847-technet-subscriptions-being-cancelled-and-no-longer-offered-ms-are-you-nuts
http://www.aidanfinn.com/?p=15171
http://winsupersite.com/windows/microsoft-kills-technet-subscriptions
http://tfl09.blogspot.com/2013/07/microsoft-planning-to-end-technet.html
http://exchangeserverpro.com/microsoft-cancels-technet-subscription/
http://windowsitpro.com/windows/can-it-community-save-technet
http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/2280804/microsoft-insists-it-is-listening-to-technet-fury
http://4sysops.com/archives/technet-subscription-end-did-you-sign-the-petition
http://4sysops.com/archives/technet-petition-counterpoint/
So, I'm not the only one who is worried.... ;-)
Regards & Respect,
M:P
Maybe we can try to reach the Microsoft TechNet Evangelists ?
IT Pro Evangelist(s) for selected area:
http://www.technetevents.com/Presenters.aspx
http://www.technetevents.com/Presenters.aspx
Lets try and see - I mean, what do you have to lose?
Support your future, and claim you right.
Don't stand there, do something!
Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Regards & Respect,
M:P
IT Pro Evangelist(s) for selected area:
http://www.technetevents.com/Presenters.aspx
And convince the our story about how a company can go down the drain, if this company drops contact and control over their biggest Fan-Group; so called TechNet?
http://www.technetevents.com/Presenters.aspx
Lets try and see - I mean, what do you have to lose?
Support your future, and claim you right.
Don't stand there, do something!
Thank you for reading my thoughts,
Regards & Respect,
M:P
What about early prolongation of TechNet Subscription, as Microsoft offered this recently?
An Email came from a TechNet Subscriber, and wanted my point of view:
What about early prolongation of TechNet Subscription, as Microsoft offered this recently?
My current subscription ends in March 2014, till the end on the August 2013 I can buy 1-year subscription and prolong it to March 2015. Then, termination of paid services in September 2014 by Microsoft will be a case for legal actions, won't be?
My answer:
At least, I won't start such thing as prolong my Subscription - while I had a phone talk (very recently) to a Microsoft lawyer / hired Advocacy Office from the Netherlands, he explained that after end of September 2013, you will only have access to TechNet, you will not receive any NEW downloads and NEW Product ID-Keys - you only have access to the current published which you already had from day one.
With other words, the amount of money that you pay for a full TechNet Subscription, will be the same, but the value of the content of that same TechNet Subscription - will not be having the full value as you are used to have TechNet as before.
For instance: with TechNet Subscription, you got an extra 1 Support Call, that will not be available after the end of September 2013. So at the end of September, you will end up with;
- Just Access to the downloads,
- and download them with the Akamai Download Manager ,
- Read your existing Product ID-Keys,
- Request your new Product ID-Keys of existing downloads,
- and everything what TechNet has to offer for free, like the Newsgroups, Blogs, Support pages, and Evaluation versions of all existing software that is as published nowadays.
What Microsoft is trying to reach, is that access to all legacy software is discontinued after 1 year from now. Microsoft want to force companies to use their Azure Cloud Services.
Microsoft costs to let the legacy systems keep supporting are running to high, they just can't afford the continuing of Windows XP after April 2014 anymore.
With other words: I believe that Microsoft is "into deep shit, up till their throats".
This is just a part of a survival plan...
So regarding your statement, do not expect to much of a prolonging or renewal of TechNet Subscription after September 2013:
- Software Activation can't be done after September 2014 anymore -
Me for instance, I've got a 3 year subscription, I can't prolong my current subscription, cause if have a 3 year subs. already, But I have to pay, next year at my renewal date, a full TechNet fee, to just get access to my downloads and product keys.
In my honest opinion, that is not the same..., as I used to have.
Till so far, thank you for reading my thoughts
respect and regards,
M:P
What about early prolongation of TechNet Subscription, as Microsoft offered this recently?
My current subscription ends in March 2014, till the end on the August 2013 I can buy 1-year subscription and prolong it to March 2015. Then, termination of paid services in September 2014 by Microsoft will be a case for legal actions, won't be?
My answer:
At least, I won't start such thing as prolong my Subscription - while I had a phone talk (very recently) to a Microsoft lawyer / hired Advocacy Office from the Netherlands, he explained that after end of September 2013, you will only have access to TechNet, you will not receive any NEW downloads and NEW Product ID-Keys - you only have access to the current published which you already had from day one.
With other words, the amount of money that you pay for a full TechNet Subscription, will be the same, but the value of the content of that same TechNet Subscription - will not be having the full value as you are used to have TechNet as before.
For instance: with TechNet Subscription, you got an extra 1 Support Call, that will not be available after the end of September 2013. So at the end of September, you will end up with;
- Just Access to the downloads,
- and download them with the Akamai Download Manager ,
- Read your existing Product ID-Keys,
- Request your new Product ID-Keys of existing downloads,
- and everything what TechNet has to offer for free, like the Newsgroups, Blogs, Support pages, and Evaluation versions of all existing software that is as published nowadays.
What Microsoft is trying to reach, is that access to all legacy software is discontinued after 1 year from now. Microsoft want to force companies to use their Azure Cloud Services.
Microsoft costs to let the legacy systems keep supporting are running to high, they just can't afford the continuing of Windows XP after April 2014 anymore.
With other words: I believe that Microsoft is "into deep shit, up till their throats".
This is just a part of a survival plan...
So regarding your statement, do not expect to much of a prolonging or renewal of TechNet Subscription after September 2013:
- Software Activation can't be done after September 2014 anymore -
Me for instance, I've got a 3 year subscription, I can't prolong my current subscription, cause if have a 3 year subs. already, But I have to pay, next year at my renewal date, a full TechNet fee, to just get access to my downloads and product keys.
In my honest opinion, that is not the same..., as I used to have.
Till so far, thank you for reading my thoughts
respect and regards,
M:P
Thursday, 1 August 2013
Puget Sound Business Journal is having a Interview with: M.P. van Sijll, the answers...
Hi there Emily,
thank you so much for having the time to questioning me at the first place,
I hope this will help us all for the future.
This is my answer:
I'm Mark Peter van Sijll from the Netherlands, born and raised and now working for more then 17 years in the IT business. I started in the IT as a UNIX System Administrator, but soon it was clear to me that about in the year of 1995 Microsoft Corp. was going to grow tremendously to be one of the greats of earth. So I had to be there with them.
Over the years, I have several dozen companies, large and small, regional, national, and even international, and I all helped them with their IT problems. I could because I was certified Microsoft for their products. I did installations, migrations, movements and left large decentralized systems merge into central systems. I even worked at Microsoft BV in the Netherlands myself, helped the first upgrade of the Windows NT4 Domain, to the Windows 2000 Active Directory - the very first LDAP directory of the Microsoft Windows NT operating system.
Over the years I searched for tools and a ways to help me in these migrations, installations and movements of small and large IT systems.That search was not difficult;
Microsoft had the answer! So called 'TechNet Subscriptions'!
TechNet Subscriptions has helped me tremendously. Crazier still, I can't even accomplish my work without it. TechNet for IT professionals = New and Legacy Knowledge, New and Legacy Technology, so for the IT business that means the power to survive, to always have work, cause you are the Senior, you are the experienced guy they so badly need. Microsoft has asked us over the years, and slightly forced us to get Certified in their products. That most of us have already done for multiple times, because we believed in this company, we believed in these products. We treat them - if they are our own.
To be honest to you: I personally think that all TechNet subscribers are Microsoft best Sales Force Team that "Do the Talks and the Walks" - all the way! We do sell!
I already have more then a decade multiple TechNet Subscriptions, even more because I enjoyed also Action Pack, which comes with a TechNet Subscription Professional+DVD Media. For me TechNet has become an addiction, I can't work without it.
You told/asked me that; Microsoft has said the main reason for shutting down TechNet is piracy.
That is a very strange thing to say, because Microsoft published the opposite...?!
Where did you get this source? It is wrong...
Even in the contrary, Microsoft said on their website and E-mail to me, that it had nothing to do with Piracy in any way, and I am the only TechNet subscriber that does believe them in this matter.
While I know what is going on...,
this whole TechNet Retirement is about MONEY!
About Sales Numbers, its about selling their newest / latest products for new fresh cash. Microsoft wants to get rid of their Legacy Systems:
Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, and even Windows Seven.
Same as with SQL Server, Exchange Server, all Server product, same as with the Applications: Office 2003, is still widely used in the whole world. Microsoft wants to abandon their own products.
Not that they hate them? No, they just does not bring new cash.
Old Legacy software only brings unpaid support work, because they promised the world to do so for them within their own Warranty. And now their own Warranty is killing their sales numbers.
Why you would say? / That's so simple: The Cloud!
Microsoft wants you, to own you and your data. To make you more dependent from their Azure Cloud system. / And this all, while not everybody, not every company wants to be in that Cloud!
Better yet: There existing huge business groups, that simply does not trust Microsoft, or any other company - to hold their sensitive and sometimes personal / financial data, even not in any bodies Cloud, not even in that from; Amazon, Google or even not Apple's Cloud systems. No way!
You asked me what will happen with my relationship with Microsoft, if they Retire the TechNet Subscription: That is a longer question with a short answer:
It will - eventually - stop being active.
Will I look for other manufactures, to continue my job?
Yes and no - that depends on what the IT business is doing to respond to this group, it depends on how things will work out for us, is a way to our own benefit, so we can make a living from it.
If Microsoft is not the answer, maybe Red hat Linux, SuSE Linux, Apple Macintosh will be?
Who's is there to say? I can't look into the future.... sadly enough.
When your subscription ends, what will you do?
I won't sit still, and just wait, so I will starve to death - that's for sure!
Have you considered using other software in the future?
Yes, like I said before in the previous questions: Red hat Linux, SuSE Linux, Apple Macintosh.
What¹s at risk for Microsoft in alienating this TechNet group?
Eventually, they will break and be tear down,
Like Novell did,
like Solaris did,
like SCO did,
and so on...
Like Microsoft will happen to do too.
"It's just business - it's nothing personal."
In the Netherlands we have a saying:
"a cat in distress, makes strange jumps", which means
in the English language: "Hard times call for harsh measures."
Microsoft is that Cat,
but so are we...
So lets jump!
Fight, and if we loose, pick it up, and walk to the horizon, because there will always be one who's the best. And if Microsoft doesn't want to be the winner / champion, someone else will take its place.
B.t.w:
I really need to get certified on that Black Hat system...,
let's pick up some old books from 1995 about System-V, Bsd...
how bad can my rusty knowledge be? ;-)
_________________________________________________
Met vriendelijke groet,
With best regards,
Mark Peter van Sijll, aka M:P
Almere, The Netherlands.
E-Mail: M.vSijll@net.??
Mail Alias: MvSijll@inter.???
Google: MvSijll@Gail.???
Skype: MvSijll
LinkedIn NL-Profiel: http://nl.linkedin.com/in/sijll
LinkedIn EN-Profile: http://linkedin.com/in/sijll/en
Microsoft Certified Professional,
Microsoft Certified System Engineer,
Microsoft Certified System Administrator,
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist,
UNIX System-V Certified Administrator I+II,
FortiNet Certified Network/System Professional.
Certified Internet Specialist,
thank you so much for having the time to questioning me at the first place,
I hope this will help us all for the future.
This is my answer:
I'm Mark Peter van Sijll from the Netherlands, born and raised and now working for more then 17 years in the IT business. I started in the IT as a UNIX System Administrator, but soon it was clear to me that about in the year of 1995 Microsoft Corp. was going to grow tremendously to be one of the greats of earth. So I had to be there with them.
Over the years, I have several dozen companies, large and small, regional, national, and even international, and I all helped them with their IT problems. I could because I was certified Microsoft for their products. I did installations, migrations, movements and left large decentralized systems merge into central systems. I even worked at Microsoft BV in the Netherlands myself, helped the first upgrade of the Windows NT4 Domain, to the Windows 2000 Active Directory - the very first LDAP directory of the Microsoft Windows NT operating system.
Over the years I searched for tools and a ways to help me in these migrations, installations and movements of small and large IT systems.That search was not difficult;
Microsoft had the answer! So called 'TechNet Subscriptions'!
TechNet Subscriptions has helped me tremendously. Crazier still, I can't even accomplish my work without it. TechNet for IT professionals = New and Legacy Knowledge, New and Legacy Technology, so for the IT business that means the power to survive, to always have work, cause you are the Senior, you are the experienced guy they so badly need. Microsoft has asked us over the years, and slightly forced us to get Certified in their products. That most of us have already done for multiple times, because we believed in this company, we believed in these products. We treat them - if they are our own.
To be honest to you: I personally think that all TechNet subscribers are Microsoft best Sales Force Team that "Do the Talks and the Walks" - all the way! We do sell!
I already have more then a decade multiple TechNet Subscriptions, even more because I enjoyed also Action Pack, which comes with a TechNet Subscription Professional+DVD Media. For me TechNet has become an addiction, I can't work without it.
You told/asked me that; Microsoft has said the main reason for shutting down TechNet is piracy.
That is a very strange thing to say, because Microsoft published the opposite...?!
Where did you get this source? It is wrong...
Even in the contrary, Microsoft said on their website and E-mail to me, that it had nothing to do with Piracy in any way, and I am the only TechNet subscriber that does believe them in this matter.
While I know what is going on...,
this whole TechNet Retirement is about MONEY!
About Sales Numbers, its about selling their newest / latest products for new fresh cash. Microsoft wants to get rid of their Legacy Systems:
Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, and even Windows Seven.
Same as with SQL Server, Exchange Server, all Server product, same as with the Applications: Office 2003, is still widely used in the whole world. Microsoft wants to abandon their own products.
Not that they hate them? No, they just does not bring new cash.
Old Legacy software only brings unpaid support work, because they promised the world to do so for them within their own Warranty. And now their own Warranty is killing their sales numbers.
Why you would say? / That's so simple: The Cloud!
Microsoft wants you, to own you and your data. To make you more dependent from their Azure Cloud system. / And this all, while not everybody, not every company wants to be in that Cloud!
Better yet: There existing huge business groups, that simply does not trust Microsoft, or any other company - to hold their sensitive and sometimes personal / financial data, even not in any bodies Cloud, not even in that from; Amazon, Google or even not Apple's Cloud systems. No way!
You asked me what will happen with my relationship with Microsoft, if they Retire the TechNet Subscription: That is a longer question with a short answer:
It will - eventually - stop being active.
Will I look for other manufactures, to continue my job?
Yes and no - that depends on what the IT business is doing to respond to this group, it depends on how things will work out for us, is a way to our own benefit, so we can make a living from it.
If Microsoft is not the answer, maybe Red hat Linux, SuSE Linux, Apple Macintosh will be?
Who's is there to say? I can't look into the future.... sadly enough.
When your subscription ends, what will you do?
I won't sit still, and just wait, so I will starve to death - that's for sure!
Have you considered using other software in the future?
Yes, like I said before in the previous questions: Red hat Linux, SuSE Linux, Apple Macintosh.
What¹s at risk for Microsoft in alienating this TechNet group?
Eventually, they will break and be tear down,
Like Novell did,
like Solaris did,
like SCO did,
and so on...
Like Microsoft will happen to do too.
"It's just business - it's nothing personal."
In the Netherlands we have a saying:
"a cat in distress, makes strange jumps", which means
in the English language: "Hard times call for harsh measures."
Microsoft is that Cat,
but so are we...
So lets jump!
Fight, and if we loose, pick it up, and walk to the horizon, because there will always be one who's the best. And if Microsoft doesn't want to be the winner / champion, someone else will take its place.
B.t.w:
I really need to get certified on that Black Hat system...,
let's pick up some old books from 1995 about System-V, Bsd...
how bad can my rusty knowledge be? ;-)
_________________________________________________
Met vriendelijke groet,
With best regards,
Mark Peter van Sijll, aka M:P
Almere, The Netherlands.
E-Mail: M.vSijll@net.??
Mail Alias: MvSijll@inter.???
Google: MvSijll@Gail.???
Skype: MvSijll
LinkedIn NL-Profiel: http://nl.linkedin.com/in/sijll
LinkedIn EN-Profile: http://linkedin.com/in/sijll/en
Microsoft Certified Professional,
Microsoft Certified System Engineer,
Microsoft Certified System Administrator,
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist,
UNIX System-V Certified Administrator I+II,
FortiNet Certified Network/System Professional.
Certified Internet Specialist,
Puget Sound Business Journal is having a Interview with: M.P. van Sijll, the questions...
Hi Mark,
Yes, the 10 hour time difference does present a bit of a challenge ;-).
How about I just send some questions via email and you can answer them when you get a chance?
If that works, here's a few questions and we'll go from there:
Can you tell me a little bit about yourself where you work and live, and what exactly you do there?
How long have you had a TechNet subscription and what have you used it for traditionally?
Microsoft has said the main reason for shutting down TechNet is piracy.
What do you think of that argument?
What impact do you think this will have on the relationship between IT professionals and Microsoft?
What¹s at risk for MSFT in alienating this group?
When your subscription ends, what will you do?
Have you considered using other software in the future?
Thanks so much for your time and thoughts. I really appreciate it.
Emily Parkhurst,
Technology Reporter
Puget Sound Business Journal
TechFlash.com
www.bizjournals.com/seattle
206-876-????
e.parkhurst@bizjournals.----
Twitter: @emilyparkhurst
Yes, the 10 hour time difference does present a bit of a challenge ;-).
How about I just send some questions via email and you can answer them when you get a chance?
If that works, here's a few questions and we'll go from there:
Can you tell me a little bit about yourself where you work and live, and what exactly you do there?
How long have you had a TechNet subscription and what have you used it for traditionally?
Microsoft has said the main reason for shutting down TechNet is piracy.
What do you think of that argument?
What impact do you think this will have on the relationship between IT professionals and Microsoft?
What¹s at risk for MSFT in alienating this group?
When your subscription ends, what will you do?
Have you considered using other software in the future?
Thanks so much for your time and thoughts. I really appreciate it.
Emily Parkhurst,
Technology Reporter
Puget Sound Business Journal
TechFlash.com
www.bizjournals.com/seattle
206-876-????
e.parkhurst@bizjournals.----
Twitter: @emilyparkhurst
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